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06:05 PM, APRIL 06, 2008
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Is "Compassionate Carnivore" an Oxymoron?
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Is Compassionate Carnivore an Oxymoron?

 

It's become fashionable to call yourself a compassionate carnivore if you aren't going to stop eating animals and their secretions (milk) and menstrual excretions (eggs), but you don't want to appear barbaric and you want people to know that you don't agree with the atrocities committed in the name of factory farming.

I don't personally know anyone in 2008 who thinks factory farming is anything but cruel. But I do know a lot of people--and I read about similar people every week--who are convinced that the animals they eat have somehow been produced (which makes them sound like widgets, and in a way they are similar: they are both commodities created to be sold in markets) humanely (as if dominating and taking someone's life--all without their consent--can ever be called humane). These well-meaning, kind people believe there is such a thing as humane meat and humane eggs, and I can easily understand why: Because the media and the mainstream animal welfare groups reaffirm that belief every day. They even endorse animal products with labels like Certified Humane (http://www.certifiedhumane.org/).

I used to believe that we should go back to family farms, where animals might have the opportunity once or twice to procreate when they wanted to (rather than being inseminated, although insemination happens on many family farms), or to roll in the grass under the light of the sun, or to eat what they were intended to eat rather than some corn-based, hormone-ridden mixture that can include the bodies and blood of other creatures and maybe even their own species. I used to think that when we eventually slaughtered innocent, sentient beings, we should do it in the kindest way possible.

But then I got honest with myself and admitted that the phrase "when we eventually slaughtered innocent, sentient beings, we should do it in the kindest way possible" is absurd if you don't have to kill someone in the first place. I realized I was just looking for a rationale for continuing to eat what I wanted to eat.

Every animal product must be considered in its context, and that includes eggs and dairy. When the scenarios are considered, in toto, one easily comes to the conclusion that eggs and dairy involve more suffering than steak. Why? because egg hens churn out eggs until they are spent, which can be years, and then they are slaughtered. And their baby males are killed when they are one-day old--usually by being tossed into a giant shredder (and that is considered humane, by the way). Dairy cows are continually inseminated and kept pregnant and lactating for their entire lives until they too are spent. (If you saw the footage of the Downer cows being brutally assaulted at the Hallmark/Westland meatpacking facility- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFCeV8vFzlo -, those were dairy cows and that happens far more frequently than you are led to believe). Furthermore, the male and female calves are taken from their mothers (a female is kept if one needs to be replaced), as she wails in agony and panic, and they are shipped away to be crated and become "veal." Of course, when the dairy cows are spent, they are slaughtered.

Again, consider the entire picture when you're deciding if a product you are going to purchase to consume--that you don't even need to consume--deserves the word "compassion" associated with it.

Ask yourself: Is the taste the milk from another species, or the flesh from the breast of another species, worth everything you have to do to the individuals to get their milk and their flesh? What is the cost to your conscience? Are you thinking critically about all that goes into using animals when you don't need to, or are you just trying to find a justification for continuing to use them?

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Bio_pic_small_thumb APR 13, 2008
Elias Feghali
Mary,

Thanks again for another pointed piece about animal rights and veganism. I must admit that I am one of those people you refer to in the piece that still rationalizes the consumption of dairy. However, I am well aware of the hypocrisy of my decision - I have just been unable to must the energy to change my lifestyle while being a college student. However, it is something I think about enough, and that I one day hope to reconsider thoughtfully.

I have an article request for you! Can you write a piece regarding whether or not the consumption of dairy/meat that would otherwise go bad is unethical according to your moral guidelines? For example, I try to reuse food and dumpster dive...if I did not purchase the food, yet I consume it, am I still supporting the industry? - what about if I provide the food for people who otherwise wouldn't be able to eat anything? These are questions that I have yet to answer for myself.

Eli
From_the_heart_of_the_world_thumb APR 14, 2008
Li Li Parsons
Mary,
A thoughtful, intelligent, and conscious article... thank you! A few people I know fall all along the food consumption spectrum, and they all have some kind of rationale for why they choose what they choose. I do too, and it is a challenge for my willpower and conscience. I feel down to the fiber of my being that I would thrive on a vegan mostly raw foods diet... the one friend who is versed in ayurveda agrees... but it is a great test to actually accomplish this! No excuses, just stating that I agree with you and at the same time have compassion and empathy for everyone who struggles to do the right thing when it comes to being in right relation to the animal kingdom and our food.
Rethosdefaultavatar_small APR 15, 2008
Richard Treadwell
Lucid writing. But, many people make many excuses to eat what they find tasty.

Yet, others have considered the ethical implications of their diet and decided eating meat is indeed moral and justifiable.

Aside from the fact human evolution was made possible from the consumption of meat, cows do something we just can't, they turn grass into valuable proteins.

Our agricultural system is a much bigger problem than is the meat industry, as the former reinforces the latter. It kills entire species, polluting and suffocating ecosystems. Eating a tofu burger from commercial soy is just as morally deplorable as eating a burger from commercial farms.

I always think back to the Indian tribes, who respected their catch and understood the circle of life. As long as our actions don't vacuum out that which maintains sustainability and allows for nature's cycle to continue, I truly believe it is morally sound. With deference, love, and an understanding of the proportions of nutrients the body needs, eating meat can be ethical.
Mmstanding_thumb APR 15, 2008
Mary Martin
Richard,

Of course, I respectfully disagree. If it is not morally justifiable to take the life of another without necessity--and it is not necessary for us to eat animals--then deciding to eat meat cannot be called ethical. It doesn't matter what we've done in the past or why. What we know, right now, is that the animals we slaughter unnecessarily are sentient. They experience pleasure, pain, boredom, frustration and terror. And they are "subjects of a life." They are subjects of their own lives. And those lives deserve respect, which comes in the form of not subjugating and slaughtering them.

As far as "Indian tribes" go, first, they have an ecological ethic that non-Indigenous people simply don't share, yet we magically point to it when we want to do something we might otherwise have no justification for. Furthermore, I cannot accept the idea of "deference and love" when it comes to slaughtering someone unnecessarily. I do not find that "morally sound" at all.

The human body does not need meat or any other animal product. Even the conservative USDA has stated that a well-planned vegan diet is appropriate for all stages of life, including pregnancy.

We've evolved in many ways, and that includes our morality. After all, a short time ago, slavery was legal. But we knew it was wrong and we evolved. We need to keep evolving away from social injustices and violence. And that includes considering what we eat and wear.

Finally, eating a diet full of processed foods--vegan or otherwise, isn't good for anyone. I wouldn't go as far as saying eating a tofu burger is as morally deplorable as eating a hamburger, though, as a tofu burger is not made from the blood of others.

Veganism shouldn't be about eating junk food like faux-meat burgers, although some people might begin their transition with them. It's about whole grains, legumes, nuts, seeds, fruits and vegetables. And some tempeh, tofu and natto. And there's no need to rationalize, point to culture (i.e., "it's what we've always done") or look to Native Americans for confirmation or approval.
Rethosdefaultavatar_small APR 17, 2008
Richard Treadwell
This has been a tricky issue for me, having to define morality and ethics, life and necessity.

I agree, culture and history are not a valid arguments, for a variety of reasons.

Eating a vegan diet may be appropriate, but I believe a very limited meat diet (perhaps once a month) is healthier because animals have chemicals plants just don't. I also believe animals should be picked out from the wild, not kept in unnatural environments. As long as they are picked out in proportions that ensure the survival of the species, it follows my moral guidelines.

If I could convert sunlight into all the nutrients I need to for optimal functioning, I'd never touch food again. But it just doesn't work that way. The living must eat the dead, for the dead to live again.

I guess what I'm saying is, eating meat isn't necessarily wrong. But eating food that destroys the planet, like presently produced meat, corn, soy, wheat, monoculture in general is. The oil-based fertilizers used degrade our environment; the transportation methods asphyxiate our atmosphere.

As far as that fateful tofu burger is concerned, it's method of production is responsible for the death of entire species, the pollution of entire ecosystems, blood may not have been spilled, but thats like trading a single bullet for a viral cancer.

Change the economic system behind the production of food in general, to one of democratic local production, and the rest of morality will follow.
From_the_heart_of_the_world_thumb APR 17, 2008
Li Li Parsons
Richard,
You always write so well and you are very thoughtful about your responses... this is greatly appreciated!

Rather than being motivated by a purely moral position, I feel that, on my own spectrum of choices to "do what is right" re food, I am motivated first by health. Ethics and morals are secondary, rather close behind the primary consideration... but still...

Health-wise, for my body-type, metabolism, digestive processes, spiritual energy, and clarity of mental function, I thrive on live foods. When I eat mostly cooked foods, I am sluggish, foggy, and gain an extraordinary amount of weight if not extremely physically active. My teeth become more sensitive, I am prone to migraine headaches and my blood pressure goes up, even with a low cholesteral and low fat diet of cooked foods. This is different for everyone, depending on what their genetic heritage is, their bodytype, metabolism... I find that what some can tolerate in their diet, others cannot. RE meat: I have always craved salty foods, meats and cheeses... NOT vegan, in the least... but that craving has it's roots in my authentic dietary needs. So what I have done, as a "compromise" - one which I have mixed feelings about - is eat smoked salmon to deal with the meat and salt craving. I use sea salt on foods that are lightly steamed , and over the years, I have cut back on dairy consumption so that instead of block cheese, I have an occasional small dish of cottage cheese or a little dab of brie on crackers.

An increase in live green veggies tends to come with the advent of spring and summer when they are locally grown and fresh... root veggies are a staple in the fall and winter. I have noticed that as I discipline my cravings and tendencies, they change. I used to love bread, but it never loved me. I barely eat it anymore, the desire for it is gone. Same with the heavy fatty block cheeses.

So all of this is just to say, if we come back to an orientation, as a society, of approaching food as fuel first and communal/social second and indulgent last, then we will naturally find our healthy position, our moral and our ethical position, in relation to food - rather effortlessly.

And... if we do authentically bring back/integrate the spiritual approach to the natural world and it's inhabitants, we will not have to have these discussions anymore!
Rethosdefaultavatar_small APR 18, 2008
bea elliott
I agree Mary that government and culture does a magnificent job at hiding where our food comes from - and that indeed "who" our food comes from. Society is so ingrained in "exceptions" from myths of the "food group" to religious ceremony. If there's a reason to use/misuse an animal there will be a taker every time. Living now as veg*an for 5 years or so, I frequently revisit that previous (un) consious place I was at before.... I see it now as a place of numbness - and of denial. A place of un-health, spiritually and physically. If we are ever to square up our morals concerning animals, the first lie to expose is that they are "food".
Mmstanding_thumb APR 22, 2008
Mary Martin
I was reminded by someone who commented on my blog (www.animalperson.net) that Dr. Will Tuttle's World Peace Diet:
Eating for Spiritual Health and Social Harmony (http://www.amazon.com/World-Peace-Diet-Spiritual-Harmony/dp/1590560833) is great for people on a spiritual path, as well as those
interested in doing the right thing for the planet and all
its inhabitants. Tuttle talks about some of the main points here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLgGnP0pWzM

Here are some Tuttle quotes, as well as some of
my own connections:
--"Seeing beings rather than things."
--We are attached to food, religion and our cultural story,
but why?
--"In our culture, we practice the art of disconnection." Anyone
who meditates or does yoga knows that repetition is the mother
of mastery.
--When you harm others, you're harming yourself even more.
--"Whatever we do to animals, we start doing to people."
--"Perhaps the reason we have all the problems we
have is the mentality required to have an unending supply of
flesh and fluids."

Thanks for reading and writing!

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